New Jan 6th Testimony

Chitta
Posts: 68
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:39 am
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by Chitta »

Great to see that Trump is STILL living rent free in dem. heads! He loves all that empty space.
Rideback
Posts: 1778
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:53 am
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by Rideback »

Ya, you're right, Trump should never have had his hands on the levers of power considering his history and his character.
Chitta
Posts: 68
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:39 am
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by Chitta »

Perhaps an old rapist dictator that says we need to keep alive the honor of the Holocaust should NOT have his finger on the button? Perhaps?
Rideback
Posts: 1778
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:53 am
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by Rideback »

DoJ asks for a 15 year sentence for J6 rioter found guilty in trial.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/15/politics ... index.html

Lotta people have gotten thrown under the bus by following Trump
User avatar
pasayten
Posts: 2444
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:03 pm
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by pasayten »

trump98.jpg
pasayten
Ray Peterson
Rideback
Posts: 1778
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:53 am
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by Rideback »

Eastman loses his bid to block DoJ from his cell phone.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/15/politics ... index.html

' "The Government's interest in investigating the January 6 attacks on the Capitol is substantial," the judge said.

Something hinkey about the SS texts going missing. J6 committee subpoenas the records after hearing testimony today from IG
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/15/politics ... index.html

Steve Bannon has some big time explaining to do.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2022/07/1 ... ws-videos/
dorankj
Posts: 840
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:08 pm
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by dorankj »

Yes, the Biden’s absolutely are! From his brother to his absolute dirtbag son to his manipulating wife.

Ray, Biden’s in ‘power’ now! Trump did in fact leave office, who exactly is grasping at straws?!
User avatar
pasayten
Posts: 2444
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:03 pm
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by pasayten »

The post is about Trump anf the Jan 6 insurrection... What does that have to do with Biden and his family?

Grasping at straws... Let's just lock the old grifter con man up and let America move on...
pasayten
Ray Peterson
Rideback
Posts: 1778
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:53 am
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by Rideback »

So did the Biden family run a college that defrauded its students and have to pay $20 million back to the students? Nope
Did the Biden family run a Foundation that was shut down for mishandling funds and the family individually banned from participating in a Foundation again? Nope.
So did the Joe Biden or his sons have numerous affairs during his marriages? Nope
So did Biden's campaign manager share internal polling for the '16 race with a Russian spy operative at the Cigar Room or anywhere else? Nope
So did Biden withhold his tax returns from the American public after promising that he would share them? Nope.
So did Biden threaten an ally that he would withhold military funding if he didn't do a political favor for him? Nope
So did Biden forego appointing heads of various agencies so that he could take advantage of interim leaders that were not vetted, not capable but political allies of him personally? Nope.
So did Biden mishandle the funds for his innaugural? Nope.
So have Biden's cabinet leaders been investigated for misusing govt funding and had to leave office when they were proven guilty? Nope.
And for the sake of comparision, these were issues that happened in just the first 3 years of Trump's presidency.

There's no comparison. Trump has always been a con man. Joe Biden and his family aren't.
dorankj
Posts: 840
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:08 pm
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by dorankj »

Biden (and family) is EVERYTHING you accuse Trump and clan of and more! Your side just will (yourselves) to not see it or investigate it. I don’t really like any politicians actually but we must have some people making decisions in our (limited!) government. You know really nothing about me and your characterizations of me without evidence really shows more about your character, honesty and fairness (lacking!) than who I am.
User avatar
mister_coffee
Posts: 1389
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:35 pm
Location: Winthrop, WA
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by mister_coffee »

dorankj wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:30 pm He doesn’t believe all voting was 100% up and up, there were tremendous changes to voting due to ‘ plandemic’
Here is where the rubber kind of meets the road. He had a right to think that. I even think there is a plausible legal argument with respect to voting rule changes in many states. But the fact of the matter is that he filed 60 lawsuits contesting the election and none of them found any merit to his claims. It is extremely unlikely that all of those judges, including the ones he appointed, were corrupt and out to get him. So he had his days in court and lost fair and square, and by extension lost the election fair and square. That should have been the end of it, but no... We had to endure a national temper tantrum of spoiled children like yourself and your fat crackpot cult leader who needed to riot and pillage when they didn't get their way.
dorankj wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:30 pm he did nothing illegal
That remains to be seen and proven or disproven. He needs to get a fair trial where the facts are presented and decided upon without fear or favor. You needn't worry, since I'm sure someone like you will be on the jury and wouldn't convict him even if he was caught with his pants off with a 9-year-old.

Also, just saying, but I will take bumbling and somewhat incompetent but well-intentioned over venal and power-mad and monstrously corrupt any day.
:arrow: David Bonn :idea:
Rideback
Posts: 1778
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:53 am
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by Rideback »

In the Rep research of 2020 authored by Ginsberg, et al, the down ballot results tell a critical part of why Biden won. The down ballots show Rep's voting for all the Rep candidates on the ticket but then voting for Biden instead of Trump so the crossovers became important.

Heather Cox Richardson July 14; what's going on with the Secret Service deleting texts, the Rep's now denying that women have the right to travel from state to state (exactly what Jack Balkin observed would happen)

'Department of Homeland Security Inspector General Joseph Cuffari, a Trump appointee, yesterday sent a surprising letter to the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and its House counterpart. The letter said that the Department of Homeland Security had notified Cuffari’s office that “many U.S. Secret Service (USSS) text messages, from January 5 and 6, 2021, were erased as part of a device-replacement program. The USSS erased those text messages after OIG [Office of Inspector General] requested records of electronic communications from the USSS, as part of our evaluation of events at the Capitol on January 6.” Further, the letter said, DHS personnel had repeatedly refused to produce records without first showing them to attorneys, which had created long delays and confusion over “whether all records had been produced.”

In other words, an inspector general thought the Secret Service had deleted texts from agents on January 5 and 6 after being instructed to produce them. Representative Bennie Thompson (D-MS) chairs both the House Homeland Security committee and the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol. Cuffari’s letter sent the information about deleted texts directly to the top.

The Secret Service immediately responded that “the insinuation that the Secret Service maliciously deleted text messages following a request is false. In fact, the Secret Service has been fully cooperating with the OIG in every respect—whether it be interviews, documents, emails, or texts.”

But this information raises questions about the role of Secret Service members in the events of January 6. Trump blurred the lines between the Secret Service and the presidency when he appointed Secret Service assistant director Anthony Ornato his deputy chief of staff in December 2019. We know Vice President Mike Pence refused to get into a car driven by a Secret Service agent on January 6, apparently concerned that the driver might not follow his instruction, and that President-elect Biden had to be assigned a new Secret Service team out of concerns that the presidential detail was allied with Trump. And last week, the Trump-appointed director of the Secret Service, James Murray, resigned.

The only good news here for Republicans is that the outrage over these deleted (or lost) texts has distracted from the firestorm over the 10-year-old child from Ohio forced to travel to Indiana for an abortion after being raped. That story, reported by the doctor who performed the abortion, was picked up by national news and by President Joe Biden, who asked people to “imagine being that little girl” in a speech about abortion rights.

Ohio’s attorney general Dave Yost told the Fox News Channel that he doubted the story because he had not heard that there had been any report of a rape, although as journalist Magdi Semrau noted on Twitter, sexual assault, especially sexual assault of a child, is rarely reported. Yost later said “there is not a damn scintilla of evidence” that such a thing happened. Right-wing media immediately began to assert that the story was false, and the Indiana attorney general, Todd Rokita, went further, telling Fox News Channel host Jesse Watters that his office would investigate the doctor who provided abortion care to the child, suggesting she had not filed a report on the case as legally required.

Today, law enforcement officers in Columbus, Ohio, arrested a 27-year-old man who confessed to raping the child. In addition, Politico found the required report filed correctly. A lawyer for the doctor released a statement saying the doctor “took every appropriate and proper action in accordance with the law and both her medical and ethical training as a physician. She followed all relevant policies, procedures, and regulations in this case, just as she does every day to provide the best possible care for her patients. She has not violated any law, including patient privacy laws, and she has not been disciplined by her employer. We are considering legal action against those who have smeared my client.”

When this Supreme Court, packed by former president Trump and the Republican Senators with three new “originalists,” handed down the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health decision on June 24, 2022, many people observed that the dog had caught the car. Republicans have turned out evangelical voters for years with the promise of overturning the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion nationally, but the truth is that Roe was popular, and legal abortion hid the many terrible events that led to its legalization in the first place. According to one estimate, in the 1960s there were between 200,000 and 1.2 million illegal abortions annually, which created such a public health crisis that doctors set out to decriminalize abortion and keep that medical issue between a woman and her doctor.

Now, right off the bat of the Dobbs decision, Americans have to grapple with precisely the sort of case that dramatically illustrates why people require abortion rights.

In response, some anti-abortion activists have doubled down on the idea that no abortion is acceptable. Lawyer Jim Bopp, who is the general counsel for the National Right to Life Committee, told Megan Messerly and Adam Wren of Politico that under the laws he would like to enact, the 10-year-old victim “would have had the baby, and as many women who have had babies as a result of rape, we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child.”

Since few people can stomach the idea of a 10-year-old rape victim forced to bear a child, other anti-abortion activists are suddenly saying that such an abortion is not an abortion at all because it is necessary to save the life of the mother, although many of the new state laws make no such exception. They have also suddenly begun to say that abortion care for an ectopic pregnancy, which is never viable and which poses a deadly threat to the pregnant person, is not an abortion either. In both cases, this is a sudden carve out that is inaccurate: both of these medical procedures are abortion, and both are illegal now in certain states.

President Biden responded to the Dobbs decision with federal rules clarifying that under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act, doctors in hospitals that use federal money must provide appropriate treatment to patients experiencing ectopic pregnancy, pregnancy loss, or other life-threatening conditions, or transfer them to places that will, “irrespective of any state laws or mandates that apply to specific procedures.”

But Republicans are pushing for even greater restrictions over abortion. Today, Texas attorney general Ken Paxton, who was indicted seven years ago for felony securities fraud but has yet to stand trial, sued the Biden administration over that rule, claiming that it is an “attempt to use federal law to transform every emergency room in this country into a walk-in abortion clinic.”

Meanwhile, Senator James Lankford (R-OK) today blocked an attempt by Senate Democrats to pass a law protecting the right of women to cross state lines to get abortion care. Apparently unaware that one of the key hallmarks of an authoritarian state is its refusal to let citizens cross borders, Lankford indicated he was willing to keep pregnant people from crossing state lines. “Does that child in the womb have the right to travel in their future?” Lankford said. “Do they get to live?”

And although the Supreme Court justified the Dobbs decision with the argument that it would simply send the question of abortion back to the states, a federal abortion ban is already on the table. Representative Mike Kelly (R-PA) has introduced HR 705, the so-called Heartbeat Protection Act, to make abortion illegal everywhere.

Today, when asked if Democrats would compromise over abortion, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said “We’re not going to negotiate a woman’s right to choose.” She added, “Republicans have sometimes said on the floor that Nancy Pelosi thinks she knows more about having babies than the Pope. Yes I do, and I think any Pope would agree.”

Pelosi has five children.

That the extremism of those now in charge of the Republican Party might convince voters to crush the party in the midterms is evident in today’s responses to that extremism. On the same day that Trump teased the idea that he might announce that he’s running for president in 2024 before the midterms, a group of conservative intellectuals released a document proving with extensive evidence that the 2020 election was not stolen, Trump lost it.

That document, “Lost, Not Stolen,” destroys the Big Lie but does not call for getting rid of the many new state laws based on that lie, laws that seem designed to cement the rule of Republicans in certain states regardless of the will of the majorities in those states. It also doesn’t discuss the independent state legislature doctrine, which would enable state legislatures to name whatever slate of presidential electors they wished, regardless of the will of the voters, a doctrine that would have given Trump a second term and that the Supreme Court has said it will consider.

It appears that old-line conservatives would like to push Trump offstage, but his role in the January 6 insurrection got more attention today when a police officer from Washington, D.C., corroborated the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson, Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows’s aide, who said she had heard that Trump attacked a Secret Service agent on January 6.

Trump and his children Don Jr. and Ivanka were scheduled to testify under oath tomorrow in New York City in the New York attorney general’s investigation into the Trump Organization's business practices, but that testimony will be put off because of the dea'th today of Ivana Trump, Trump’s first wife and mother of his three eldest children. Ivana Trump, 73, was found dead at the foot of a stairway. Trump announced her death on his social media network, calling her “a wonderful, beautiful, and amazing woman, who led a great and inspirational life.”

At the bottom of the announcement was a button to donate to Trump’s political action committee.'
dorankj
Posts: 840
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:08 pm
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by dorankj »

Yes, Biden is the most popular President ever! Keep telling yourself that.
just-jim
Posts: 615
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:24 pm
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by just-jim »

dorankj wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:30 pm He doesn’t believe all voting was 100% up and up, there were tremendous changes to voting due to ‘ plandemic’, he did nothing illegal. You truly believe Alzheimer’s in chief was the MOST popular President ever and received 81mil. votes far exceeding Obama both times and Killary? Many reasonable people question this set of events, deal with it!
The bad guy can ‘believe’ whatever he wants….he’s shown himself to be 2 dribble glasses short time and time again. In spite of every credible investigation to the contrary, and against the advice of almost everyone - all reboplicans - around him; including every State’s election official and Governor and every Trump appointed investigative Federal service. And 48 of 50 Courts where the election was challenged.

No “reasonable” persons question the election results. Only tinfoil hat wearing, wack-a-wacka, q-anon, looney tunes don’t.
dorankj
Posts: 840
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:08 pm
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by dorankj »

He doesn’t believe all voting was 100% up and up, there were tremendous changes to voting due to ‘ plandemic’, he did nothing illegal. You truly believe Alzheimer’s in chief was the MOST popular President ever and received 81mil. votes far exceeding Obama both times and Killary? Many reasonable people question this set of events, deal with it!
just-jim
Posts: 615
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:24 pm
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by just-jim »

dorankj wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:18 pm Once again pot meet kettle! Just once example, you won’t accept the “constitutional processes and rule of law” when it comes to the Dobbs SCOTUS decision. Physician heal thyself!
Let me get this straight….

You want others to excuse the orange gas-bags behavior, including his pretty obvious attempts to circumvent a democratic process at the foundation of our Country. Even in the face of repeated, increasingly corroborated, testimony? And exempt this sorry piece of crap from even further investigation and possible indictment? Because you think all that behavior is excuse-able since SCOTUS over-ruled a precedent you didn’t like?

You need to study up on false equivalency.
dorankj
Posts: 840
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:08 pm
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by dorankj »

Are you serious?! There was literally a guy with guns and knives who said he wanted to kill Kavanaugh! You people are impossible!
Rideback
Posts: 1778
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:53 am
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by Rideback »

Turns out Cassidy Hutchinson's recounting of the episode in the Suburban where Trump lost it that was recounted to her by Tony O has now been corroborated by an officer in the motorcade who witnessed the altercation.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/politics ... index.html
Rideback
Posts: 1778
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:53 am
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by Rideback »

Some of the most prominent Republican Conservative minds, including Ben Ginsberg have published a report on the 2020 election. It's called Lost not Stolen

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/politics ... index.html
PAL
Posts: 1304
Joined: Tue May 25, 2021 1:25 pm
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by PAL »

No, he has Covid brain. Read the studies.
Pearl Cherrington
User avatar
mister_coffee
Posts: 1389
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:35 pm
Location: Winthrop, WA
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by mister_coffee »

dorankj wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:18 pm Once again pot meet kettle! Just once example, you won’t accept the “constitutional processes and rule of law” when it comes to the Dobbs SCOTUS decision. Physician heal thyself!
Can I nominate this post for an award? Perhaps "nuttiest post ever"?

Nobody stormed the Supreme Court shouting "Hang Samuel Alito!" armed with clubs, bear spray, and spears used as flagpoles. No elected officials publicly supported such an action. Nobody was posting conspiracy theories about how Italian satellites were controlling Clarence Thomas' mind.

All people were doing is objecting to a ruling that they vehemently disagree with. Which I think is something that the first amendment allows them.

Your Nest thermostat is controlling your brain, Ken. Don't listen to it when it tells you to drink bleach.
:arrow: David Bonn :idea:
dorankj
Posts: 840
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:08 pm
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by dorankj »

As PAL likes to say “deflection”! You guys have been nuts to get Trump his entire time in office/limelight, we’ll talk when you actually get something real. So far other than political ‘impeachment’ votes you’ve had nothing! Happy hunting. Remember Schiff is a flat liar.
Rideback
Posts: 1778
Joined: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:53 am
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by Rideback »

The rule of law is playing out in the J6 committee hearings, DoJ investigations, arrests and prosecutions, Georgia AG has convened a grand jury on Trump's intimidation tactic on his phone call to Rathensberger, Dominion voting machine has filed multiple lawsuits against not just Rudy G and Sydney Powell but against Fox and the courts have agreed to let the cases proceed, the IG of the IRS has opened up an investigation into the IRS auditing McCabe & Comey after Trump publically called them traitors, the false reportings of Trump Org for their real estate practices are under investigation with a grand jury and

all you can think of on a J6 thread is to say we should be focused on Dobbs which by all accounts was imperfectly handed down and is wrecking havoc on the rule of law across the nation.

You may try and walk your support of Trump out the back door but you lose credibility when you reiterate in your next breath a litany of his positions that you learned from Fox. btw, did you see Alex Jones' ex wife has contacted the J6 committee with 'inside information that is relevant'?
dorankj
Posts: 840
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:08 pm
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by dorankj »

Once again pot meet kettle! Just once example, you won’t accept the “constitutional processes and rule of law” when it comes to the Dobbs SCOTUS decision. Physician heal thyself!
User avatar
mister_coffee
Posts: 1389
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:35 pm
Location: Winthrop, WA
Contact:

Re: New Jan 6th Testimony

Post by mister_coffee »

So what I hear you saying is that in spite of their contempt for a constitutional processes and the rule of law, we should vote them in because they can, in a way, make the trains run on time? More precisely, Republicans insist they can do better, but their recent track record indicates that they are more likely to open up diplomatic relations with people from the planet Venus than actually do anything constructive.

How about them Italian satellites?
:arrow: David Bonn :idea:
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests