Page 2 of 3

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:07 pm
by Chitta
MSM has sold you a cute fantasy, but lobotomy is too high a price for me. Luckily the aggregate votes are likely to factor in some ability at critical thought and propaganda evaluation. Please continue to push the preposterous excuses and inane drivel as it can only help come election time. Have fun at the gas pump...

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:25 am
by Rideback
Of course Putin 'didn't make a move under Trump'. His trolls worked hard to influence the election to get Trump in, the Rep Party platform in '16 designed by Paul Manafort included specific support for Russia's regaining Ukraine, Michael Flynn delivered to the WH the paperwork of Putin's requirements to take back Ukraine, Paul Manafort delivered to a Russian spy the insider polling of the election so it gave Putin's trolls targets. Trump himself held Ukraine hostage by holding back weapons to fight off Russia, only conceding to send them after he got caught withholding what Congress had approved.

When in office Trump (in Helsinki) sided with Putin's analysis rather than our own Intel Community. There wasn't a moment's worth of doubt that Putin succeeded in putting his puppet into the WH, there was no need for him to attack Ukraine, Trump was doing it for him. Trump weakened NATO, using Russian troll talking points during his 4 years.

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:03 am
by Chitta
Show me people more credible than the Behavior Panel! Psaki is not someone that I trust.

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:01 am
by Chitta
FACT. Putin did NOT make a move under Trump. but waited for Biden to invite him in. So you cherry pick opinions and offer nothing reliable. Anything to escape the shame of zero integrity. Election time is coming so bend over and kiss your fantasy goodbye.
You can lead a horse to water...

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:38 am
by Rideback
Chitta, that's quite a litany but I see you don't bother to support your claims with any kind of facts that bring reality into your opinion.

Under Trump, the debt soared $7 trillion. That was a record. He inherited a booming economy but managed to meet his claim that he was 'the king of debt'. I believed him when he told America that, why didn't you? https://www.americanprogress.org/articl ... y-in-2021/

Under the Biden admin the US has seen grown 2nd only to 1984. I've already posted a link of the Biden administration successes in the first year, they are huge.

You may think that repeating lies with no facts to back them up is somehow competing with the real facts or that repeating them so many times will somehow make them real, but reality doesn't work that way.

Trump's tariffs destroyed much of our economy, it hit the agriculture sector hard and also helped to create new partnerships between China and Russia that are impacting the supply chain issues today.

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:15 am
by Chitta
Some people will grasp at ANY cherry picked opinion to assuage their guilt over selling out unborn grand kids(deeeep debt to build back broke), giving Putin tons of power, donating millions in top shelf military grade weapons to the wonderful Taliban, using TAXPAYER money for a 750K fence around a PERSONAL vacation home, cheering for a corrupt rapist, and setting back the development of their neighbors and children without any legitimate gain. Don't worry, if your ego needs it, someone somewhere has said it. The Taliban, the border, the economy and Putin were all kept in check under our last president and went to crap as soon as dictator Joe was given power(more FIAT use than ANY other pres. IN HISTORY!)
Sorry if the facts don't feeeel good.

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:32 pm
by pasayten
I stand by my comment above.
Or comment below...

https://pasayten.com/bb/viewtopic.php?p=3273#p3273

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:48 pm
by dorankj
No they don’t, none of them show a higher death rate than normally from the flu. Higher case rates and even hospitalization compared to earlier Covid is mis-direction. I stand by my comment above.

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:11 pm
by Rideback
The links make a point that you seem to have missed.

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:55 pm
by dorankj
A lot of gobbley-gook to pretty much agree with me, while insisting I’m wrong! You guys are point-less.

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:29 pm
by Rideback
Link is from UNICEF that says 12,800 children have died from Covid. That number is global, not from the US alone. I used it to demonstrate that children from all walks of life and all countries have been striken by Covid.
https://data.unicef.org/topic/child-survival/covid-19/

Omicron was a game changer when it came to kids
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... -hospital/

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:00 pm
by pasayten
dorankj wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:16 pm “12,800 kids died from Covid”? Bullxxit! Fewer kids died of Covid than normally are killed in a flu season. Fake news, "Unsavory acronym".
VERIFY: Are children dying from COVID at a lesser rate than the flu?
Here's a breakdown of recent numbers in Georgia and the country since the COVID pandemic began.

Author: Hope Ford
Published: 11:18 PM EDT September 24, 2021
Updated: 11:18 PM EDT September 24, 2021
ATLANTA — The COVID-19 pandemic is now the deadliest pandemic in America’s history.

Vaccines and masks continue to be a hot-button issue, especially when it comes to mandates in schools.

Recently, during a protest outside an August Cobb County School Board meeting, a parent supporting the board's decision to keep masks optional made the following argument:

“If kids are dying at a lesser rate than the flu, then what do we need masks for?”

So, we wanted to verify if children have died less from COVID than from the flu.

SOURCES:

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Georgia Department of Public Health
ANSWER:

Yes, but it needs context.

This is true.
WHAT WE FOUND:

First, to address an elephant in the room. More kids have died from the flu overall because the flu has been around longer than COVID-19.

However, the two viruses are not the same, and COVID spreads more rapidly than the flu.

Here's a breakdown of recent numbers in Georgia and the country since the COVID pandemic began.

According to Georgia's DPH COVID-19 report, here's what the data shows for individuals under the age of 18 since the start of the pandemic:

16 kids died from COVID
21,991 (individuals under the age of 18) have died overall from COVID
Children's deaths account for 0.072% of all COVID deaths in the state
15 children have died from the flu in the 2019-2020 season (Flu deaths are updated quarterly)
1,299 people died from the flu in the same time period
Childrens' deaths make up 1.1% of all flu deaths in the state
In comparison, here's what the data shows for individuals under the age of 18 in the U.S. since the start of the pandemic:

544 children have died from COVID
682,646 people have died overall from COVID
Nationally, childrens' deaths account for .079% of all COVID deaths
434 children died from the flu last season
21,909 people died overall from the flu
Nationally, children's deaths made up 1.9% of national flu deaths
To add context, fewer people died from the flu overall in the 2019-2020 season because, as the CDC noted, pandemic precautions like handwashing, social distancing, and masks, helped.

So, this is a two-fold answer. Yes, there’s a larger percentage of flu deaths in children, but more children died of COVID.

It’s hard to definitively say kids are dying at a lesser rate than the flu because we don’t know how long COVID-19 will persist and because we don't know the impact of the current flu season.

The data in this article is current as of Sept. 24.

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/ve ... 3510b33370

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:16 pm
by dorankj
“12,800 kids died from Covid”? Bullxxit! Fewer kids died of Covid than normally are killed in a flu season. Fake news, "Unsavory acronym".

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:03 pm
by Chitta
MSM lies do not concern me. FL cases, so what, a function of testing. How many dead from the hundreds of thousands invited into the country without any covid tests under Biden?
See The Behavior Panel regarding Tara Reade. If you STILL think your little echo chamber of propaganda is a more reliable source of info, that tells me all I need to know about your "reality".
If you injected bleach that is on you fool.

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 3:31 pm
by Rideback
Chitta:
I don't watch or read NPR.
Florida is indeed a disaster from the standpoint of Covid policies. It ranks 4th in the nation as of last week for the number of Covid cases.
Children have always been at risk from Covid, particularly from Omnicron, which resulted in 4.8 million cases reported in kids since January this year. Though Omnicron has been called 'mild' it remains a danger to the kids, particularly when they are unvaccinated. Long term Covid is a common problem in kids. There's been 12,800 kids who have died, so my bet is their parents would disagree with you that kids were never in danger from Covid.
Trump Admin did fund the mRNA vaccine development. Simultaneously he told the nation repeatedly that Covid was no big deal and he had it under control; likewise he had depleted the stockpile of PPE's so even the hospital staff ended up having to wear garbage bags when supplies ran out, he allowed meat packing plants to process without supervision so that when Covid entered their facilities they were not shut down and hundreds contracted the virus at just one plant, he promoted bogus preventative measures that ended up sending people who followed his advice to the ER and even to the morgue, he promoted conspiracy theories that prompted people to forego good medical practices and he never got his act together to create accessibility to testing across the nation...all of this were things that could have bought the US time to develop the vaccines without the massive spread that we endured.
Rapist Joe? you mean the woman who recanted after she couldn't keep her story straight? And really, that's all you got after the Trump years where actual women came forward who had sexual encounters with him, were raped by him, were paid off with backroom deals...Stormy Daniels comes to mind and then of course the checks he signed personally.

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:54 pm
by Chitta
If any of your NPR bogus propaganda were true, Florida should be a disaster yet that is where the elites now go to play because they did not shut down to screw over the young, poor and elderly. Children have never been at real risk, just another excuse for the "good" people to push their ignorant agenda causing an astounding increase in debt and inflation(doesn't affect trust fund valley, soo yipee). It was Trump that got the vaccine made and rolled out. It was Kamala that told us politics are more important and pulled back on pointing out the horrific racist actions of rapist Joe. With your attempt at logic, it was the Jews that Caused the Nazis. Bravo!!!

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:05 pm
by Rideback
Chitta, I'm curious about how you conclude that separating out Covid from the reaction to Covid works. Of course, there would be no reaction to Covid to impact the global economy if there were no Covid in the first place and the combination proved deadly to a 'just in time' design of manufacturing where inventories were considered dead weight.

Covid lit a match that burned through the world economies and their weaknesses. It created scenarios, ongoing today, where people missed work because they were sick or fearful of becoming ill, where people were lost permanently to the jobs market because they died in massive numbers, where long Covid prevented people from returning at full health to the job force, where Covid put a full stop to the things every culture takes for granted, like sports events, concerts, large gatherings, in class teaching...colleges still have not regained their pre Covid enrollments. These are things Covid caused and the resulting reactions to protect human life globally would never have occurred without its arrival. I can't see how you can separate the two issues successfully.

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:04 am
by Chitta
1st-Taiwan does NOT have open borders and so is a comparison very weak in logic, as expected.
Causation requires a bit of thought, you proved my point exactly about this ignorant little echo chamber. The number you gave means NOTHING. What might be worth looking at is the number of people that were working in areas relevant to the supply chain but had to unexpectedly stop work due to covid sickness (at least a place to start building the multi-varied analysis). Your number includes the elderly that died in the great democrap nursing home slaughter in NY, as well as the people that died of cancer and were later tested for covid( info from a mortuary owner in WA state). I don't think many people in nursing homes or dying of cancer were moving great loads of product. The Science has not changed but our reaction to covid has changed with the polling data (it was always about political control for some people/ just like the Blaise Ford scam and Biden continuing to hide his RAPE accusation in the Delaware papers-soooo transparent they are). Who cares, just go ski because that will show how much you care about the environment. It is good for the economy so do your dang part folks.

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:19 pm
by mister_coffee
Chitta wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:37 pm The majority of the disaster is caused by the REACTION to covid, not covid itself. A shame that public education fails to teach causation vs. correlation.
Citations please.

I'd note that at least part of the supply chain disruption had very little to do with COVID at all. Most of the semiconductor shortage (which drives shortages of everything from new appliances to new automobiles) is driven by drought conditions in Taiwan which caused several foundries to shut down for extended periods. Note that in 2020 and early 2021 Taiwan never had to lock down because people there, unlike many people here, had the wit and good sense to wear masks. Even today Taiwan's cases per day are a tiny fraction (like under 100 cases per day) of what we are seeing here in the land of the free.

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:26 pm
by PAL
Recovering from supply chain disaster is not so bad for me as an individual, because, what do I need? What do I need to buy? More plastic crap? More clothes? More of any items? I've looked through all my "stuff". I have enough stuff for now. By the time I need more, I figure this supply chain issue might be worked out. Even then, I feel I am lucky in that I have all that I need or want. The main thing for me is food and it might be for others too. Have plenty of that right now and haven't missed not having the food I need. So again, I am lucky.
But go through your closets, the garage(if you have one) the cupboards, etc. Ask, what do I really need? What can be repurposed? There is a big movement going on with that. The Methow has already been doing that.
I guess I am not a good consumer. That's what keeps this capitalist economy going.

Re: Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:37 pm
by Chitta
The majority of the disaster is caused by the REACTION to covid, not covid itself. A shame that public education fails to teach causation vs. correlation.

Recovering from supply chain disaster

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:35 am
by Rideback
Covid has done a number on the supply chain globally. Not since WW2 have we seen this kind of disruption.


https://gcaptain.com/worlds-damaged-sup ... f3b097f94b