History of Fauci and PCR test (Beware - use your own due diligence)

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Thanks for the fact check Ray.

Unfortunately there are people who believe the misinformation with deadly results.


"Many COVID-19 patients insist ‘it’s not real’ until they die, nurse says"

https://globalnews.ca/news/7467283/coro ... urse-hoax/

"You don’t have to believe in COVID-19 for it to kill you.

Jodi Doering, an emergency room nurse in South Dakota, has watched that simple truth play out again and again over the last year, as many of her patients have denied the coronavirus‘ existence or their own diagnosis up to their dying breath."
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Fact check: Inventor of method used to test for COVID-19 didn’t say it can’t be used in virus detection

By Reuters Staff

Correction Nov. 13, 2020: The verdict of this fact check has been changed from false to misleading, to reflect that the quote examined may have been a fair reflection of Mullis’s views, even if not a direct quote. The body of the text is updated in places to further clarify this.


Social media users have been sharing a quote attributed to the inventor of the Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) test, currently being used to detect COVID-19, which says “PCR tests cannot detect free infectious viruses at all”. This quote appears not to be a direct quote from the inventor, Kary Mullis, has lost some context and does not mean COVID-19 testing is fraudulent, as suggested by some social media posts.

The posts have been shared over 1,000 times on Facebook (here , here , here).

The post begins with the words “COVID-19 TEST a FRAUD?”, then introduces the alleged quote from Mullis, who invented the PCR method in 1985 and was recognized for this achievement by being awarded the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1993 (here).

However, the quote is actually from an article written by John Lauritsen in December 1996 about HIV and AIDS, not COVID-19 (here).

The context around the quote shows Lauritsen is not saying PCR tests do not work. Instead, he is clarifying that PCR identifies substances qualitatively not quantitatively, detecting the genetic sequences of viruses, but not the viruses themselves: “PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV. The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves.”

Even if Mullis had voiced a similar statement before his death in 2019, this quote does not mean the PCR test is unable to detect the presence of SARS-CoV-2 - the virus that causes COVID-19 - rather that it cannot determine whether the individual tested is infectious.

The PCR test is the preferred COVID-19 testing method in England (tinyurl.com/u9xxxup). It detects the presence of the virus by amplifying the virus’genetic material to a point where it can be detected by scientists (tinyurl.com/y7rno7pf).

A spokesperson for Public Health England told Reuters why PCR tests are being used widely in England: “Molecular diagnostic tests, such as real-time PCR, are the gold standard methods for identifying individuals with an active viral infection, such as SARS-CoV-2 (the cause of COVID-19 disease), in their respiratory tract. These tests are rapid and produce results in real-time.

“It is important to note that detecting viral material by PCR does not indicate that the virus is fully intact and infectious, i.e. able to cause infection in other people. The isolation of infectious virus from positive individuals requires virus culture methods. These methods can only be conducted in laboratories with specialist containment facilities and are time consuming and complex.”

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Misleading. The quote regarding the limitations of PCR tests appears not to be directly from Mullis, but in any case is not evidence the test is fraudulent. PCR tests are being used widely in England to show that SARS-CoV-2 viral genetic material is present in the patient.
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Excerpt: "Fauci doesn't understand electron microscopy"... Nobel Laureate inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullis, died at the age of 74 back in August of 2019 but prior to his death, he had a lot of interaction with Fauci.

He’d already gone to war with Fauci for misusing his PCR test. Mullis and other scientists said Fauci was magnifying the retrovirus HIV using PCR to “prove” it was the cause of AIDS. Mullis was furious that Fauci refused to debate him on science but argued from authority.

Does this all sound familiar? It’s another reason why this COVID “novel” was not credible from the beginning. In the past, Fauci, CDC, etc, had abused test methods many times to push pandemics and pharmaceuticals.

“The strategy for locking us down again is based on these fraudulent tests. The magnified tests that don’t measure the quantity of anything. It’s the same strategy Fauci used to make a lot of money for a lot of people. It’s not just the PCR test, all these rapid tests, every one of them, they’re all NON-QUANTITATIVE tests. There’s no such thing as a non-quantitative test, it’s a lie, an obvious fraud. We’re locking everybody down over brainless lies. The only reason they were able to get away with this is because they’ve turned us into an idiocracy, that was the whole point of the government schools.”

“[Mullis] always said you couldn’t use [PCR] to diagnose a disease but in this particular clip, he goes directly after Fauci and tells what a liar he is,” reported David Knight on 12/10/2020’s show.

Knight then played the clip (here: https://twitter.com/libertytarian/statu ... 3076665346) where Mullis said, “These guys like Fauci get up there and start talking to me, you know, he doesn’t know anything really about anything, and I’d say that to his face. Nothing. The man thinks you can take a blood sample and stick it in an electron microscope and if it’s got a virus in there you’d know it. He doesn’t understand electron microscopy, and he doesn’t understand medicine, and he shouldn’t be in the position he’s in. Most of those guys up there on the top are just total administrative people, and they don’t know anything about what’s going on at the bottom. Those guys have an agenda, which is not what we would like them to have, being that we pay for them to take care of our health in some way. They’ve got a personal kind of agenda, they make up their own rules, they change them as they go. And Tony Fauci doesn’t mind going on television in front of the people who pay his salary and lie directly into the camera.”

Knight comments, “Fauci didn’t want to have the debate because he only argues from AUTHORITY. Mullis didn’t believe that there was a connection between HIV and AIDS and said they’re making this connection by misusing his test. He said we all have retroviruses and they’re, literally, blowing this way out of proportion. They’re amplifying it a TRILLION times, that’s what a PCR cycle of 40 does.” The FDA requires PCR testing of COVID to be 40 CT (cycle threshold).

“There’s an excellent article about Mullis and his conflict with Fauci by Celia Farber (here: https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-th ... t-a-virus/).

Knight comments, “Mullis didn’t believe that AIDS was caused by HIV, partly because it was barely detectable in AIDS patients. When PCR was used, they were able to see viral particles in quantities they couldn’t see before.”

Farber reports, ”Mullis himself was unimpressed. ‘PCR made it easier to see that certain people are infected with HIV,’ Mullis told Spin in 1992, ‘and some of those people came down with symptoms of AIDS. But that doesn’t begin even to answer the question — Does HIV cause it?’ ”

“Does that sound familiar?” asked Knight. “They misuse the PCR test and all of a sudden we’ve got cases everywhere. They did a complete media blackout of the HIV debate for over 7 years. Just like with vaccines right now.”

“Remember that the first thing Fauci did as director of the NIH was to make sure that BigPharma had legal immunity for any damage from vaccines. And remember, this was less than 10 years after we’d been rushed into a swine flu vaccine over a fake pandemic and a lot of people were injured by it. That was the reason he had to do it, it had nothing to do with science, it’s all about politics and money.”

But Fauci also took the reins of NIH’s infectious diseases as AIDS/HIV was pushed to the front by him and by media.

Mullis said “The mystery of [AIDS] has been generated by the $2 billion a year they spend on it. You take any other virus, and you spend $2 billion, and you can make up some great mysteries about it too.”

Knight compares the financial incentives of the AIDS industry in 1990s with GreatReset financial and political incentives with COVID. “What if you spend $20 billion on it? What if you were to reorder society and take everything from everyone over it? What if the pot at the end of all this is worth TENS of TRILLIONS of dollars to the bankers, globalists, and the politicians who work for them? For TRILLIONS of dollars, they could reset the whole world.” And all it takes is magnifying a virus a trillion times with a PCR of 40 CT.

“There are many parallels between what Fauci did with AIDS and what he’s doing with COVID. Mullis pointed out that the misuse of his test was just being done because there’s money involved. For 7-years the media stopped anyone questioning what Fauci said about AIDS. They’ve been censoring the debate over vaccines for quite some time and they’re going to step it up. YouTube was bragging about how they’re going to pull down any videos of anyone who questions the election now.”

“It’s a clear violation of the First Amendment, they’re taking our right to know, to debate. These people don’t want to debate, Mullis was saying he’d challenged Fauci but he wouldn’t show up. They will control the press, just like they did a blackout on AIDS, they’ll do a blackout on this vaccine,” concluded Knight.

See the full report above.
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If real history has been hidden from you, they may set you up to repeat the same misunderstandings...https://roundtablereport.com/?p=6582&fb ... V5Rk4MmTWs
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