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Pulls a whole lot of pieces together
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Two things Trump screwed up that got folks killed in 2020:
In 2018 and 2019, his administration cut the CDC staff in China by about 70 percent. Which was just criminally stupid. Lack of staff on the scene made it harder for us to figure out what was going on in Wuhan.
People were dying of COVID here in the states as early as the first days of January 2020. State health agencies and the CDC have an early warning system looking for emerging infectious diseases and have had one since the early 2000s. Interestingly, those state agencies and the CDC did their jobs and that information was passed up the chain to the White House. Where nothing got done with it.
Between those two things I think we lost the drop on COVID and slowed our reaction time by eight to ten weeks. We could have massively ramped up the acquisition and production of PPE (mostly masks) in those eight to ten weeks. That would have also given more time to get a decent plan into place. You could have even started limited border checks or quarantines from China in mid-January rather than two months later when it arguably made no difference at all. None of those things would have stopped COVID but they would have massively slowed it down and likely saved many thousands of lives (and Trump's re-election prospects) over the coming months.
A lot of leadership is getting the right people to the right place at the right time to catch the ball when it lands there. Leadership failed. Trump failed.
In 2018 and 2019, his administration cut the CDC staff in China by about 70 percent. Which was just criminally stupid. Lack of staff on the scene made it harder for us to figure out what was going on in Wuhan.
People were dying of COVID here in the states as early as the first days of January 2020. State health agencies and the CDC have an early warning system looking for emerging infectious diseases and have had one since the early 2000s. Interestingly, those state agencies and the CDC did their jobs and that information was passed up the chain to the White House. Where nothing got done with it.
Between those two things I think we lost the drop on COVID and slowed our reaction time by eight to ten weeks. We could have massively ramped up the acquisition and production of PPE (mostly masks) in those eight to ten weeks. That would have also given more time to get a decent plan into place. You could have even started limited border checks or quarantines from China in mid-January rather than two months later when it arguably made no difference at all. None of those things would have stopped COVID but they would have massively slowed it down and likely saved many thousands of lives (and Trump's re-election prospects) over the coming months.
A lot of leadership is getting the right people to the right place at the right time to catch the ball when it lands there. Leadership failed. Trump failed.
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Ken, Trump sent one hospital ship to NY and then another to Kirkland. The NY ship helped some but was intended to handle the overflow of hospitals by taking patients who didn't have covid and needed other kinds of treatment. Quickly the ship became infected with covid and could not help the patients it was intended to help. It's hard to give Trump credit for Warp speed when he criticized the mRNA science, as have you, and promoted using Ivermectin and bleach. But even with Trump's disinformation gleaned from Russian propaganda that affected the battle, science still provided 3 vaccines that made a difference. Today we no longer have mobile mortuaries in the form of refrigerated tractor trailers parked outside hospitals.
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Hey pot meet kettle! You calling out name calling?! Such a jackwagon.
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You call women ‘camel-toe’? Really?dorankj wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 8:05 pm Such re-write of history, Trump sent hospital ships that weren’t used (needed?), did operation Warp speed that produced that vaccine you praise as so effective and it was done in less than a quarter of the time your side said it’d take. Wasn’t it dementia Joe and Kamel toe who said they wouldn’t take the vax and Donald who did and told everyone? You sycophants are such deluded goofs who pretend you’re always right and completely deny known truth! KMA
Please go summon your wife by that name. Or, alternatively, your mother.
Then, get back to us on what response you get, OK?
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Such re-write of history, Trump sent hospital ships that weren’t used (needed?), did operation Warp speed that produced that vaccine you praise as so effective and it was done in less than a quarter of the time your side said it’d take. Wasn’t it dementia Joe and Kamel toe who said they wouldn’t take the vax and Donald who did and told everyone? You sycophants are such deluded goofs who pretend you’re always right and completely deny known truth! KMA
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The premise that Trump 'didn't kill anyone' is the same image of Trump's inaction/actions on J6. Both times he stoked fires of fear and disinformation, and in the moment when action was most needed he sat by his tv and watched the disaster unfold. Why is there any doubt in your mind that Trump's inaction compounded by his constant stream of disinformation caused harm in both instances?
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My vitriol IS directed at ignorant, unscientific hammer-heads like you who willfully disregard science.
And yes, pee-pants killed people. My Virologist cousin says that “without question, the inaction and delay on the part of the administration caused at least 100,000 deaths”. Others have put the total at closer to 300,000.
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Well, it was bad enough to make sure Mr. Trump wasn't re-elected.
We also didn't mask effectively and never could have reached "herd immunity" because of helpful people like you who actively sabotaged well-intentioned efforts to do both.
We also didn't mask effectively and never could have reached "herd immunity" because of helpful people like you who actively sabotaged well-intentioned efforts to do both.
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Maybe someday you’ll turn your anger and vitriol to those who are actually responsible, DT didn’t kill anyone and I’m not the reason you lost friends. The communist Chinese brought this on the world
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.dorankj wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:02 pm Not even close, your doomsday predictions never came to be, we never effectively masked, never reached herd immunity vaccination levels and now very few test for Covid or even take the latest variant ‘vaccine’. So pretending you were right and accurate is really the height of hubris and gaslighting. But that’s pretty apropos for you lying arrogant elitist a-holes, never right but always sure.
Glad you can dismiss 1.2 million deaths. Including 3 people close to me.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... acker-home
‘Very few test…or take..’. Your data…? You must mean YOU never masked or….?
You don’t understand the definition of gaslighting, do you?
Again…post some evidence. Not just your normal dribble.
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Not even close, your doomsday predictions never came to be, we never effectively masked, never reached herd immunity vaccination levels and now very few test for Covid or even take the latest variant ‘vaccine’. So pretending you were right and accurate is really the height of hubris and gaslighting. But that’s pretty apropos for you lying arrogant elitist a-holes, never right but always sure.
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And time has proven the science that 'us guys' followed was correct vs the youtube pseudo science con artists that you followed.
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Kinda like you guys and Covid.
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Don’t waste your time RB……at some point it becomes useless.
Once they have an idea in their tiny brains, it’s impossible to dislodge. All things then conform to highlight and bolster that same un-truth.
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Don’t waste your time RB……at some point it becomes useless.
Once they have an idea in their tiny brains, it’s impossible to dislodge. All things then conform to highlight and bolster that same un-truth.
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So I suppose you want an AG like Barr or even Clarke...the same Clarke who is on the verge of being disbarred. And Barr who agrees that Trump ran afoul of the law and even quashed an investigation into Rudy G? There's a reason so many of Trump's lawyers are indicted and/or disbarred.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics ... index.html
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The only ‘no there there’ is a DOJ who will actually prosecute the law and not create sweetheart deals or delay until statute of limitations runs out! But lawfare against political enemies in an election year is in full swing. And then of course to accuse your enemies that they will do what is actually happening right now.
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No, those have all been fact checked, disproven and even Comer has told Rep members that there is no there there so he'd like to drop the case.
You've been lied to and because those lies fed into your own opinions you've not bothered to fact check them. Did you notice that after Hunter Biden's letter to Fox laying out the lies they've told about him that Fox scrubbed their documentary and other stories about him from their website?
Did you see that Steve Bannon has been re indicted for his scam with the Chinese billionaire?
You've been lied to and because those lies fed into your own opinions you've not bothered to fact check them. Did you notice that after Hunter Biden's letter to Fox laying out the lies they've told about him that Fox scrubbed their documentary and other stories about him from their website?
Did you see that Steve Bannon has been re indicted for his scam with the Chinese billionaire?
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Except for the bank accounts, shell corporations, emails, recordings, former partners testimony. Yep, no evidence whatsoever!
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Ken, there's never been any evidence that the Moscow mayor's wife's $3.5 million in total or in part went to either HB or a member of the family. That's what the fact checkers as well as the Rep House investigation found. So, until evidence arrives you're only making accusations based on political hearsay, that strangely is coming from Moscow.
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Your ‘evidence’ is Hunter’s lawyer said he ‘didn’t do it’ and supposedly Hunter’s business partner suddenly has nothing to do with the grift? Boy you guys really operate some hard hitting investigation! Yeah that Biden family became millionaires on government salaries and legitimate business with no corruption anywhere!
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One thing that true blue kooks and conspiracy hacks have - once they buy into hogwash and bullsh*t….they NEVER back down, even when confronted with the obvious and truth.
In most circles, such dogged determination would be admirable. Here it’s just a sad commentary on the state of things.
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One thing that true blue kooks and conspiracy hacks have - once they buy into hogwash and bullsh*t….they NEVER back down, even when confronted with the obvious and truth.
In most circles, such dogged determination would be admirable. Here it’s just a sad commentary on the state of things.
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Prove the laptop in question actually belonged to Hunter Biden or even physically exists.
The person who claimed Hunter Biden gave him the laptop is legally blind and can't and won't testify that it was Hunter Biden who dropped it off. Which is awful convenient.
Also, all of the data associated with the laptop in question is tainted by a corrupted chain of custody and, however incriminating it might be, is unusable in any legal proceeding. If the guy who received the laptop followed the actual protocols he was supposed to follow when he discovered evidence of criminal activity on the supposed laptop that wouldn't be the case.
The person who claimed Hunter Biden gave him the laptop is legally blind and can't and won't testify that it was Hunter Biden who dropped it off. Which is awful convenient.
Also, all of the data associated with the laptop in question is tainted by a corrupted chain of custody and, however incriminating it might be, is unusable in any legal proceeding. If the guy who received the laptop followed the actual protocols he was supposed to follow when he discovered evidence of criminal activity on the supposed laptop that wouldn't be the case.
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Fun to watch you jumble your conspiracies.
Unfortunately, no matter how many ways you dodge and weave through the conspiracies there's still no there there.
https://www.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics ... 6d512c4e5e
https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/fa ... 35-million
And now there will be a court of law that will hold Fox accountable for their lies to the public, that you seem to hold onto so dearly. Fox & enablers don't do so well when faced with truth in defamation cases, don't you remember the Dominion case? And now look at Smartmatic's resolution against Newsmax and how OAN is squealing.
Unfortunately, no matter how many ways you dodge and weave through the conspiracies there's still no there there.
https://www.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics ... 6d512c4e5e
https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/fa ... 35-million
And now there will be a court of law that will hold Fox accountable for their lies to the public, that you seem to hold onto so dearly. Fox & enablers don't do so well when faced with truth in defamation cases, don't you remember the Dominion case? And now look at Smartmatic's resolution against Newsmax and how OAN is squealing.
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