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Only 1 person died J6, a smaller unarmed woman and veteran by a reckless (left his service weapon in a restroom) capital officer who has provided no justification for shooting just 1 women who posed no imminent threat to his life. You guys will lie through your teeth to get your political enemies (73 million Americans) and scream that everyone else is lying to boot!
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Jingles, yes the J6 insurrections were carrying arms. No all of them, but there were armed people there according to their statements at their trial as well as the videos. The J6 insurrection was distinct from other acts of violence in that it occurred on Fed'l property, the very seat of govt of the United States and as it happened it was designed to interrupt an official govt proceeding, which is why that interruption is what has been charged for many of the insurrectionists. And, subsequently that violent disruption is what they pled guilty to. As well, there have been convictions of sedition.

You'd do well to read some of the court filings rather than Breitbart and NewsMax outlets.
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Jingles wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:06 pm
As far as an insurrection on 1/6 the only person's that were armed with weapons were the capitol police so I would hardly call what happened 1/ 6 as an insurrection the summer of love in Seattle was more of an "insurrection" Don't remember of hearing any building were burned or destroyed about the only thing that really happened was a whole lot of chicken schit damorats pizzed their pants
5 people died on Jan 6.

But hey….no big deal, I guess.

That’s WAY more than have been killed by wolves in any single year. Yet, you don’t get twisted up and into a panic about humans dying at the hands of their fellow citizens.

Interesting. So, people dying because of the actions of crazed trump-ian whacko’s - who believe lies about a stolen election - are just fine? Yet, mythical wolf kills warrant all out war?
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Jingles wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:06 pm
Add in the number of people that do not file for unemployment or those that have decided to just collect welfare rather than file unemployment and I'm pretty sure the numbers would be higher than your 3.7%.
Nope.

The BLS - which is responsible for calculating the unemployment rate counts ALL unemployed folks in their surveys….not just those receiving ‘unemployment insurance’.

https://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm

“Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the government uses the number of people collecting unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under state or federal government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed.”
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mister_coffee wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:15 am Current US unemployment rate as of December 2023 is 3.7%. That is the lowest rate we've seen in 20 years, and unemployment has been consistently low for about a year.

Yes, some companies are laying off workers. Others are hiring. That's called capitalism.
Add in the number of people that do not file for unemployment or those that have decided to just collect welfare rather than file unemployment and I'm pretty sure the numbers would be higher than your 3.7%.

Yes everywhere you look you see help wanted signs so there should be zero claims for unemployment as long as there is employment opportunities available a person should not be able to file for or collect unemployment

How is doing what the federal government is supposed to be doing
Article IV Section 4 "The United States shall quarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive ( when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."
In defiance of the Supreme Court?

If you say there is not an Invasion across the Southern border then there sure as hell was not an insurrection in DC on 1/6

As far as an insurrection on 1/6 the only person's that were armed with weapons were the capitol police so I would hardly call what happened 1/ 6 as an insurrection the summer of love in Seattle was more of an "insurrection" Don't remember of hearing any building were burned or destroyed about the only thing that really happened was a whole lot of chicken schit damorats pizzed their pants
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What the QAnon freaks believe is going to happen:

https://twitter.com/GraduatedBen/status ... 1894741235
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If people connected the dots and looked at all these problems as one>politicing rather than governing then perhaps solutions would arrive. But as long as the subjects are cherry picked to argue about rather than folded into that larger problem one can easily see why disinformation reigns.
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Just saying. It isn’t a good look if you have a case before the Supreme Coirt about what to do about your insurrection on January 6th and at the same time encourage governors of Red States to defy a Supreme Court decision. And simultaneously encourage congress not to pass immigration bills because the problems at the border help you politically.

If “high a$$h0lery” were a crime that Donald guy would be 100% guilty.
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As the ABC documentary I linked to pointed out, Jingles, migration is a global problem now. Whether it is because 'there are no more fish' as the woman in Somalia said, or that agriculture is collapsing or that dictators are destroying their countries, the reality is that people are being forced to move towards safety.

Even looking around the valley here, it seems every storefront has a help wanted sign taped to the front door. In Silicon Valley I doubt the layoffs could be filled by people standing at the border, today, but give them a chance and they just might be. Then there's the aspect that America knows better than most other countries and that's that immigrants are what has made this Country great...they have contributed mightily. Whether it was Einstein, Steve Jobs, George Washington and everyone else inbetween there can't be any doubt that among these immigrants are people, who given a chance, could excel.
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Current US unemployment rate as of December 2023 is 3.7%. That is the lowest rate we've seen in 20 years, and unemployment has been consistently low for about a year.

Yes, some companies are laying off workers. Others are hiring. That's called capitalism.
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Be it 225,000 or 300,000 the jobs aren't here, (Amazon laying off people, Auto manufactureres laying off people, Google with lay offs, major box stores closing resulting in loss of jobs) so they can become self sufficient productive members of the work force and not be a drain on society keep the borders closed completely.
Why is it wrong for a Governor to take the necessary steps to protect the citizens of his State in accordance with his oath of office?

Most everyone that has posted a reply has said the homelessness and affordable housing is a crisis so with 250,000 more per month to add to this crisis are you opening your house to migrants that have no job ? Possibly disease carriers? Or are you content with just paying more in taxes to pay for their housing , meals, medical, schooling?

So let's use a conservative number and say 200,000 per month equates to 2,400,000 per year of people that have no home, no job, that are draining the resources that could/should be utilized taking care of US Citizens
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Jingles, the number in Dec was 225,000.
If the Border Patrol was funded from the legislation introduced by the Dem Congress perhaps that number would go down but until the Rep Congress stops grandstanding, stops obstructing the funding and Greg Abbott keeps breaking the law not much is going to change.

And it's 24 state governors btw, https://gazette.com/news/wex/the-24-rep ... 0da06.html

For some, migration is the only answer https://abcnews.go.com/International/vi ... -106725873
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Greg Abbott belongs in jail.

Maybe they can throw him in with guilty donnie after his long con finally grinds to a halt.
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This stuff was settled in 1865. We're in the 2020s here.
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Nice to see 50% of the States Governors are taking a stand with TX in protecting this country from an invasion of Illegals , over 300,000 in December alone
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