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Sure did. T lawyer says he expects to be arraigned next week.
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Sounds like the indictment went down today.
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And now the NY Grand Jury may be presented with a second case of ‘hush money’ payments to an alleged sex partner of the guilty orange stain.

This one from a 2006 liaison with a playboy bunny. What’s interesting is that the Wall Street Journal apparently made the hush money payment during Depends donnie’s 2016 run for president….in what is know as a ‘catch and kil’…..i.e. they make the payment and then kill the story.

Who owns the WSJ? Rupert Murdock, the same fun guy who owns fox nooz. Surprised, right?
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“According to the Wall Street Journal, the office of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has presented the grand jury with evidence involving former Playboy model Karen McDougal, who claims to have had an extramarital affair with Trump beginning in 2006.

As the Journal first reported in 2016, the parent company of National Enquirer, which endorsed Trump’s first presidential bid, agreed to pay McDougal $150,000 for her story about the alleged affair. But the tabloid ultimately did not publish McDougal’s account, effectively quashing the story in an industry tactic known as “catch and kill”.

The incident bears key similarities to the handling of Daniels’ story about her alleged sexual encounters with Trump beginning in 2006. Michael Cohen, Trump’s former lawyer, gave Daniels $130,000 for her story in 2016, and that transaction was not publicly reported until 2018. Cohen has said that Trump reimbursed him for the payment, but the former president denies involvement in the hush money scheme, and he has dismissed the allegations of affairs with Daniels or McDougal.

The grand jury hearing evidence about the McDougal payment raises the possibility of Trump facing additional charges over the incident, or prosecutors may cite the transaction to establish a pattern of hush money schemes on the former president’s part.”
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/29/politics ... index.html

The Manhattan grand jury hearing the hush money case involving former President Donald Trump is currently scheduled to break after April 5 and restart later in the month, a court administration source told CNN.

It is not immediately clear whether the grand jury will hear the Trump case again before April 5.

If the grand jury does not hear the case again for several weeks, it will pause what had been a wave of anticipation that a former president could be indicted for the first time in American history. Trump himself incorrectly predicted he would be arrested last week amid news reports about security preparations being made in the event of an indictment.
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From Nicole LaFond, Talking Points Memo

Paging Trump
I wrote last week about the one-size-fits-all quality Donald Trump brings to his conspiracy theories, offering those who are trying to use their congressional powers to do his dirty work for him, like Jim Jordan, an easy template to latch onto.

This was illustrated as Jordan and other House GOPers sent the Manhattan DA’s office a series of letters demanding testimony from DA Alvin Bragg about supposed shady coordination between the DAs office and the Biden DOJ — an assertion that traced neatly back to Trump. Jordan sent the letter less than 24 hours after Trump posted on Truth Social, elevating some Deep State conspiracy theory about the Biden DOJ planting anti-Trumpers in the DA’s office.

Of course, there’s no evidence of this at all — but it gave House Republicans an easy narrative to seize and act upon. (The letter was so over-the-top misleading that Bragg’s office, which rarely speaks about this case publicly, responded to the letter with a statement saying it wouldn’t be “intimidated” by the House GOP’s various attempts to run interference for Trump.)

At the time, Democrats like Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) were openly disturbed about what looked like direct coordination between the Trump team and House Republicans’ investigative priorities. Raskin told WaPo’s Greg Sargent this:

“This is an extreme move to use the resources of Congress to interfere with a criminal investigation at the state and local level and block an indictment,” Rep. Jamie Raskin (Md.), the ranking Democrat on the Oversight Committee, told me. He likened the aggressive GOP enforcement of absolute “impunity” for Trump to “the kind of political culture you find in authoritarian dictatorships.”

Then the New York Times reported last week that the coordination between Trump’s legal team and House Republicans might run even deeper than previously reported:

Mr. Trump’s lawyers have quietly pushed the Republican-led House to intervene. Last month, a Trump lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, wrote to Mr. Jordan calling on Congress to investigate the “egregious abuse of power” by what he called a “rogue local district attorney,” according to a copy of the letter obtained by The New York Times.

That leads us to Tuesday, when CNN published an in-depth look at the extensive coordination between Trump’s team and top Republican members of Congress on issues not just tied to the House GOP’s latest attempt to probe Bragg’s investigation into Trump and the Stormy Daniels hush money payments. Donald Trump himself is not only in direct communications with influential members of the new House majority, like House GOP Conference Chair Elise Stefanik, but some House Republicans are taking it upon themselves to keep Trump personally apprised of the status of their investigations.

This bit from CNN is worth the read:

Stefanik and Trump spoke several times last week alone, where she walked him through the GOP’s plans for an aggressive response to Bragg.

GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, who serves on the House Oversight Committee, which is conducting a number of investigations into President Joe Biden, also speaks to Trump on a frequent basis. Both she and Stefanik have endorsed Trump’s 2024 presidential bid and are said to be interested in serving as his running mate.

“I keep him up on everything that we’re doing,” Greene told CNN. “He seems very plugged in at all times. Sometimes I’m shocked at how he knows all these things. I’m like, ‘How do you know all this stuff?’”

Multiple sources tell CNN that Trump and House Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan speak regularly but declined to divulge whether those conversations included Jordan’s investigative efforts. 
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A little bit pissy this morning it would seem. Sorry your feathers are aflutter.

When you're done with your hissy fit take a look at the legal definition of 'obstruction' and you'll find that it applies to Trump only in the current drama we're all having to live through. Both Pence and Biden have bent over backwards to accomodate the Feds so that documents can be returned to their rightful storage. btw, I'm open to being corrected but have seen nothing that indicates that Obama as 'taken' any unauthorized docs. Feel free to post a link.

Since I know you won't link, I'll do it for you. No. Obama didn't. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 845055001/

But as the saying goes, if you insist on believing proven liars then you'll never find the truth.
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Rideback wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:08 am Hannity interviewed Trump last night. And in the most bizarre Trump interview to date, he screeched his guilt. Jack Smith's case just may have gotten even stronger that the GA case. Both now have tapes where Trump implicates himself multiple times.

https://crooksandliars.com/2023/03/trum ... -over-docs
This is off topic to this thread. Perhaps move this to the proper place or maybe create a thread entitled @Rideback Drama?

You do know that Pence, Obama and Biden all kept gov docs that where supposed to be turned in after they left office? Trumps case may have some differences but it will be sorted out eventually.

It is time for the left to stop using derogatory names to describe Trump. That's divisive plan and simple and indefensible.
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Fed'l judge has ruled today that Mike Pence must testify

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And now donnie might be facing additional NY State charges of ‘intimidation and obstruction’, based on the threats he has been making.
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I know a couple of pretty high powered criminal defense attorneys. They will always tell a client to keep their pie hole shut! But, we all know how well the orange one takes advice….
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Hannity interviewed Trump last night. And in the most bizarre Trump interview to date, he screeched his guilt. Jack Smith's case just may have gotten even stronger that the GA case. Both now have tapes where Trump implicates himself multiple times.

https://crooksandliars.com/2023/03/trum ... -over-docs
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They had to get the mafia bosses on some kind of charge long ago. So they got them for tax evasion. The prosecutors need to go further and do something about the GA tapes and yes, the documents that Mr. Orange fought to give up.
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The context of 'weak' that you're talking about is relative to the GA case where Trump is on tape 2x threatening a govt official to change the vote. Also 'weak' compared to the MAL doc case where the classified docs were stolen by Trump and then he obstructed their recovery not 1x but 4x.
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Even legal experts on the left are saying the NY Stormy Daniels case is weak. A misdemeanor at most trying to be trumped up to a felony charge. Expert witness is a convicted liar.

Did you know that the Obama campaign had to pay something like $320,000 in fines for campaign funding violations?
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mister_coffee wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:06 am The "both sides" argument, to me, is really tired and not either a fair or accurate representation of reality.

One side advocated for the violent overthrow of our government, sometimes publicly and on television. The other did not and never did. Also, shutting down people for being "divisive" when one side is openly advocating for "civil war" and a "national divorce" is in my view just plain abusive.

It is easy to dismiss almost anything by using a "both sides" argument. It basically encourages intellectual laziness and discourages critical thinking and being able to make clear distinctions based on facts and reality. If you want to argue that facts and reality aren't real that's fine but it is not a practical or constructive discussion and you can't get anywhere with that line of "reasoning".

Let me just say that I think peaceful compromise with people who deny reality probably isn't even possible. Hopefully some people aren't too far gone and we can marginalize the true dingbats and whack jobs and hopefully keep things coherent and sane.


Should I care that you believe everything the media or Methow Trails spoon feeds you as you try and confirm your bias?

We have already seen how you personally spew disinformation when you desire to support your extremism, even though your position is contrary to established policy.

That's a fact.

If your desire is to believe opinion as fact, then perhaps it is you who are "too far gone" and we can only hope to "marginalize the true dingbats and whack jobs".

In other words, IMO you are part of the problem Mr. "round them up and inject them with a dull needle".

You wanted to take away people's civil liberties in deciding what medical treatment is right for their own bodies during the pandemic, same way the extreme right has made criminals out of women who want control over their own bodies.

So you see, it is a both sides problem and I care because we in the center suffer from your extreme us versus them ideology.
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The "both sides" argument, to me, is really tired and not either a fair or accurate representation of reality.

One side advocated for the violent overthrow of our government, sometimes publicly and on television. The other did not and never did. Also, shutting down people for being "divisive" when one side is openly advocating for "civil war" and a "national divorce" is in my view just plain abusive.

It is easy to dismiss almost anything by using a "both sides" argument. It basically encourages intellectual laziness and discourages critical thinking and being able to make clear distinctions based on facts and reality. If you want to argue that facts and reality aren't real that's fine but it is not a practical or constructive discussion and you can't get anywhere with that line of "reasoning".

Let me just say that I think peaceful compromise with people who deny reality probably isn't even possible. Hopefully some people aren't too far gone and we can marginalize the true dingbats and whack jobs and hopefully keep things coherent and sane.
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If you're referring to the 'hearsay' that was in the clip, he was talking about one of 10 charges of obstruction that the Mueller Report laid out that included witness tampering. In the case of Michael Cohen, he kept the receipts.
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Rideback wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:41 am Trump's attorney Costello's testimony yesterday brought to mind Trump's history of witness tampering and may have added to charges that the DA already has against Trump as well as Costello.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-cohen-costello/
keep in mind that the media (left and right)makes money off of these types of stories using hearsay and unnamed sources as a substitute for factual evidence.

Perhaps its better just to see How it all plays out and understand that the divisive speculation and opinion (left and right) is just money making entertainment.

Sadly though, it has harmful effects on our society. Everyone playing to our emotions short on facts.
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Trump's attorney Costello's testimony yesterday brought to mind Trump's history of witness tampering and may have added to charges that the DA already has against Trump as well as Costello.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-cohen-costello/
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What is interesting about watching this go down - and it was sort of predictable - is how the R party is about to start caving in on it self. The party members are going to devour each other!

Heather Cox Richardson shows it well: I. Talking about guilty donnie holing up at MAL, then Desantis having to decide whether or not to allow extradition - and each wing of the party for or against that.

“His lack of support for the former president apparently outraged Trump, who promptly accused DeSantis of sexually assaulting a teenaged boy. The tension between the two Republican leaders has prompted speculation that Trump will fight extradition if only to force DeSantis to choose between alienating Trump’s supporters or kowtowing to the former president. Either would wound his presidential hopes, perhaps fatally.

Other Republicans are trying to deflect attention from the former president’s potentially criminal behavior and to focus instead on what they say is overreach by prosecutors. But when former vice president Mike Pence this weekend said he was “taken aback at the idea of indicting a former president of the United States,” former Republican National Committee chair Michael Steele tweeted "Why the hell are you 'taken aback by the idea of indicting a former President' who has engaged in criminal behavior? Why continue to make excuses for Trump who would rather see you hanged & rancid behavior you decry in others?"”

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.c ... ch-20-2023

I think the party might do itself permanent damage arguing over this fool. In any case It’s gonna be good! Get the popcorn ready.
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Probably the best recounting of the Stormy journey I have read.

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'On Saturday morning, Donald Trump announced on Truth Social that he "WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK." Trump's comments came after widespread reports that Manhattan District Alvin L. Bragg (D) was closing in on an indictment connected to Trump's $130,000 hush money payment to Stormy Daniels, a former adult film star who says she had an affair with Trump. Later, a Trump spokesman clarified that Trump had no "direct knowledge of the timing of any arrest" and was only "highlighting his innocence and the weaponization of our injustice system."

The strategy, it appears, is to drown out any discussion of his actual conduct by skipping right to the outrage about his arrest — even though Trump has not yet been arrested or charged. This approach involves convincing the public that his actions were unimportant and, therefore, any charges will be politically motivated.

Trump is getting help making this argument from both sides of the aisle. On the right, Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) said that Trump is a victim of "an outrageous abuse of power by a radical DA" who is pursuing "political vengeance against President Trump."

On the left, David Axelrod, who served as Barack Obama's chief strategist, characterized the money payments to Stormy Daniels as the "least meaningful" of all allegations against Trump. Axelrod said charges against Trump for something so insignificant would allow Trump to characterize all future charges as "politically-motivated."

While McCarthy and Axelrod are quick to dismiss Trump's conduct, his payment to silence Daniels was an effort to subvert the democratic process.

At their heart, presidential elections are relatively simple. Voters learn things about each candidate and then use that information to select their choice — including whether or not to vote at all. A campaign is a process of shaping that information environment through ads, events, policy announcements, and other activities.

There are some basic rules about how federal campaigns operate. If you spend money to benefit your campaign, it must be publicly reported. If you run an ad, you must disclose that your campaign paid for the ad. The underlying principle of these rules is transparency — voters have a right to know what you are saying and doing to get elected.

If Trump is charged, it will be because prosecutors believe he violated the law in order to hide relevant information from voters in the days leading up to the 2016 election. After Election Day, Trump allegedly engaged in more crimes, including falsifying business records, to cover up his actions.

Trump was not a "victim of an extortion plot"
Trump, in a statement released by his 2024 campaign, now says that he was a "victim of an extortion plot, yet he is the one being prosecuted." This is not what happened.

Daniels met Trump at a July 2006 celebrity golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, Nevada. (There is a photo of the two of them together at the event.) Daniels says Trump invited her to his hotel room and said he could secure her a spot on his reality show, The Apprentice. She alleges that they then had a sexual encounter, which Trump denies. Afterward, according to Daniels, Trump would call her and invite her to other events, including the 2007 launch of Trump Vodka.

Daniels sought to sell the story about her alleged relationship with Trump to media outlets beginning in 2011 when Trump raised his profile by making baseless accusations about Obama and publicly contemplated a presidential run. Daniels gave Life & Style an extensive interview in exchange for $15,000. That would have been the end of it, but when Life & Style contact the Trump Organization for comment, Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, threatened to sue. Life & Style killed the story and did not pay Daniels. (The full Life & Style interview was published in January 2018.)

Daniels tried to shop the story again in 2016, when Trump emerged as the Republican nominee, but did not receive an offer. Everything changed in October 2016 when the Washington Post published the infamous Access Hollywood tape that featured Trump's lewd comments about groping women. Trump's sexual mores were now at the center of a closely contested campaign. And his ability to win the election hinged largely on Trump changing the subject before Election Day.

Dylan Howard, then-editor of the National Enquirer, reached out to Daniels' agent and asked her to make another proposal for Daniels' story. What Daniels didn't know is that David Pecker, the publisher of the National Enquirer, Howard, Trump, and Cohen, had reached a secret agreement at the outset of Trump's presidential campaign to work together to "catch-and-kill" negative stories about Trump. The purpose of the agreement was to boost Trump's chances in the campaign.

Howard reached a tentative agreement to pay Daniels $120,000 for her story. But Pecker had recently paid Karen McDougal, another woman who alleged she had an affair with Trump, $150,000. Pecker wasn't prepared to shell out any more cash. So Howard advised Cohen that he would need to take care of it himself. Cohen conferred with Trump and Pecker and negotiated a $130,000 deal to purchase Daniels' silence.

Daniels, in other words, never tried to extort Trump. Instead, she was targeted by a "catch-and-kill" operation set up by Trump and his associates prior to the campaign to hide damaging stories.

Cohen's cash crunch
Cohen had successfully negotiated a deal for Daniels' silence, but he had a big problem: where was he going to come up with $130,000? On October 25, 2016, two weeks before Election Day, Daniels' attorney, Keith Davidson, told Cohen that he was canceling the deal and Daniels would resume shopping it to media outlets.

This put Trump, and his campaign, in a dire situation. Not only could Daniels reveal the story of her affair with Trump in the critical days before the election, but she could also reveal the botched scheme to buy her silence. Had the truth emerged in October 2016, it could have played a decisive role in an election determined by about 70,000 votes across a handful of states.

That didn't happen. After consulting with Trump, Cohen withdrew $131,000 from a home equity line of credit and transferred it to a recently formed shell company, Essential Consultants. The shell company transferred $130,000 to Davidson on October 27.

There was a great deal of effort to obscure Trump's involvement with the payment. In the non-disclosure agreement itself, Trump was referred to by a pseudonym, David Dennison (DD). A separate side agreement identified Dennison as Trump.


A few days later, Trump won the presidency.

Over the course of the next year, Cohen invoiced the Trump Organization $35,000 per month to both reimburse him for the payment to Daniels and compensate him for his role in defusing a threat to the campaign. Cohen was paid a total of $420,000 by the company, and the checks were personally signed by Trump.


The public first learned of the hush money payments to Daniels from a story in the Wall Street Journal in January 2018. Trump repeatedly lied about his involvement.

On April 5, 2018, Trump was asked if he knew anything about the payments from Cohen to Daniels. He claimed he knew nothing:

Q. Mr. President, did you know about the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels?

TRUMP: No. No. What else?

Q. Then why did Michael Cohen make those if there was no truth to her allegations?

TRUMP: Well, you’ll have to ask Michael Cohen. Michael is my attorney. And you’ll have to ask Michael Cohen.

Q. Do you know where he got the money to make that payment?

TRUMP: No, I don’t know. No.

Federal prosecutors determined the scheme that was directed by Trump and executed by Cohen was illegal. Among other things, the payments by Cohen, which were ultimately reimbursed by the Trump Organization, constituted unlawful corporate contributions to Trump's campaign. Cohen pled guilty to campaign finance violations and other crimes and was sentenced to three years in prison for his role.

Federal prosecutors declined, however, to prosecute Trump. This decision might have been based on an opinion by the Department of Justice's Office of Legal Counsel stating that "the indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would unconstitutionally undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions." But federal prosecutors did not charge Trump after he left office either.

Whether the same scheme also violated New York State law is a separate question. If Bragg decides to charge Trump, he will have to make the case in detail. But Trump's conduct was not unmeaningful, and efforts to hold him legally accountable are not outrageous.

Trump schemed to conceal relevant information from the voting public in the days before the election, engaged in an elaborate coverup, and then lied about his involvement. This deceit was a subversion of the democratic process and may have changed the course of history.
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HIS SOCIAL PLATFORM POST... It's all in caps... Must be important and true... Ken would think so... :-)
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Anyone reading that post would be alarmed and if someone had left the planet for the last 7 years only to now return they'd pipe right up to say this man has gone over the cliff into insanity. He is a deranged man who has turned into an anarchist who is calling for violence on the streets, not for anything close to patriotism. This time people who answer his call will come armed, they will not hesitate to shoot...unless, of course it is like all the rest of Trump's rallies lately and no one shows up. After all, he can offer them no protections or pardons.

All of these social media posts he's tossing out will only be used as exhibits in front of the judge to determine how high his bail will be set at. His passport will be surrendered and he will now be available to the next round of indictments to follow.

update: the judge has handed over to Jack Smith's team the actual notes taken by Corcoran because they demonstrate that a crime was being discussed.
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I find it interesting that a current day cult leader would choose Waco TX to kick off his presidential run next week. The same place where a wanted cult leader refused to surrender to feds 30 years ago, killed ATF agents, and ran deadly stand-off where at least 75 died.
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/18/politics ... index.html

And of course he's calling upon his base to come out and protest. Law enforcement is preparing for a violent day.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... -rcna75577
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