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I never said I did, you all are the ones trying to tell me how horrible I am because of your projection and gaslighting. I have stated repeatedly what I am for, life.
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Then you don't support Alito's opinion.
Link to SNL with text
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/08/media/sn ... index.html
"Domestic Supply of Infants" Amy Comey Barrett
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/let-s ... oB1W0m_f4Q
Link to SNL with text
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/08/media/sn ... index.html
"Domestic Supply of Infants" Amy Comey Barrett
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/let-s ... oB1W0m_f4Q
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I support “rare” and self defense, I’m not sure either are applicable to the current state of this debate. Hence the need for a change.
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I think we can come up with lots of circumstances, most fortunately rare, where it is reasonable to kill other humans.
Self-defense comes to mind.
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So do you support killing babies at any age or are you against that? Your argument is contradictory.
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No. I can see it's too complicated for you. Re read your first sentence.
Not wearing a mask because you're choosing 'freedom to control your own body' leads to proven cases of transmission, proven cases of death, suffering and long covid. Your 'freedom' kills, knowingly and without care. Consequences be damned.
Ironic that people who feel masking up infringes on their rights are AOK with women being denied their right to control their own body.
Not wearing a mask because you're choosing 'freedom to control your own body' leads to proven cases of transmission, proven cases of death, suffering and long covid. Your 'freedom' kills, knowingly and without care. Consequences be damned.
Ironic that people who feel masking up infringes on their rights are AOK with women being denied their right to control their own body.
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I understand what you are saying.Mickey M. wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 8:23 amWords matter. A zygote is not a baby and 50% of fertilized eggs do not survive. If you think fertilized eggs are babies you could ask, why is God murdering our children when that fertilized egg does not survive. Of course that's ridiculous logic.mister_coffee wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 8:10 am ...
So it seems we are deciding that poor babies need protecting while we should kill rich ones?
It will be interesting when the Trump oppression cult reverses gay marriage and other LBGTQ human rights. Vote
From my point of view, even if you argue that a fetus is a person then it can still be reasonable and appropriate to kill that fetus in some circumstances. You can argue that abortion should be allowed from a simple "greatest good for the greatest number position". In general if you assume that a fetus is a person the abortion debate is a variant of the trolley problem. Logically since mother and child are not easily (or at all) separable during a pregnancy anything deleterious to the health and well-being of the mother is also deleterious to the child, so it is reasonable to place the health and well-being of the mother before the child.
On God: Have you read the Old Testament? God is easily the scariest and most murderous character in that book, in a book full of scary and murderous characters. By modern civilized standards Old Testament God would be a war criminal. The Old Testament God would care little about murdering babies.
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Wow!, you equate baby humans to masks? That’s pretty twisted. I support full freedom for women to control their own body and actions, I just can’t support killing the consequences for those choices.
I attempted to copy a article and only a headline came out, so I was shown by my teenager how to get the whole article (sorry I’m not perfect, just a dumb firefighter). BTW, Nazi is National Socialist so your deflection and projection efforts will never change the fact that they are far more aligned with your side of the aisle.
I attempted to copy a article and only a headline came out, so I was shown by my teenager how to get the whole article (sorry I’m not perfect, just a dumb firefighter). BTW, Nazi is National Socialist so your deflection and projection efforts will never change the fact that they are far more aligned with your side of the aisle.
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I'm curious how you equate how a mandate to wear a mask is all about infringing on your freedom over your own body vs Alito's opinion that would deny a woman the freedom to choose what happens to her own body?
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Someone watched SNL and plagiarized! I thought you guys were for democracy? Let the people vote for what they want in each state.
Margret Sanger, the grandma of PP (and eugenicist) made it very clear what abortion is for!
Margret Sanger, the grandma of PP (and eugenicist) made it very clear what abortion is for!
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The reality is that under this ruling women who have access to money and assistance will be easily able to travel to a place that will allow them to kill their offspring. Poorer women will have to do their nine and leave the result at the fire station.
So it seems we are deciding that poor babies need protecting while we should kill rich ones?
So it seems we are deciding that poor babies need protecting while we should kill rich ones?
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Wrong again PAL, nobody is dying from starvation in America (obesity yes!) more government spending and debt won’t fix our overspending and debt and majorities support some reasonable limits, even just be more like Europe. Most laws there limit abortion at 12 weeks.
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Nah, the GOP kills them after they are born by not supporting them by not voting to help poor families with the child tax credit. Or by not renewing food for children in schools. There have been studies about lack of nutrition for children and it is higher than you think.
It's easy for men to speak out and be against abortion as is evidenced by the lying Supreme Court. Polls show the majority of Americans think that women should have a right to choose. When the minority starts to rule, what kind of government is that?
It's easy for men to speak out and be against abortion as is evidenced by the lying Supreme Court. Polls show the majority of Americans think that women should have a right to choose. When the minority starts to rule, what kind of government is that?
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So when can society speak out about killing children, when they’re 4, how about 2? Is it ok to be opposed and pass regulation about killing babies one day after birth, how about one day before? Can men at least speak out about killing baby males, women just decide the girls? You guys are pretty deluded in your death cult!
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It's a personal issue between the woman and God... In many cases, also the man who impregnated her... Doesn't contraceptives prevent the creation of life? Nothing said about that by the "righteous" ones... Speaking out is different than legislation and making the decision for someone else... Legislation is not the issue for this case... Education and support is... But that costs time, effort, and $$$ that the church and society does not seem to want to invest sufficiently in. Maybe more men/women should put their $$$ and support where their mouth is... Donating spare change to Care-net once a year is not cutting it...
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Prosecute the men, hold them responsible, fine. I’m trying to advocate for not killing the absolute most innocent, the child. If you believe we all have a soul, there WILL be an accounting! Plus killing innocent is always wrong in all cultures and religions.
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Yeah, what's one little percentage and a half of a percentage? Who cares about those women that get raped and become pregnant. Or the child that is raped and becomes pregnant in those states that want to impose that. Again, they did not think that through. So it has to be about control-who would make that kind of law? Sharia law.
"No-one will be required to carry a dead fetus you freak. It’s a leaked preliminary opinion, not final."
You know this for a fact Ken? With this scary untrustworthy court, it's most probably final. We women have to be ready and we will be.
That is also just Raygun's opinion. Old, just like Alito's. Quoting from the 17th century. What a dip.
And it's not killing babies if the mother's life is endangered. And some women who have a cancer diagnosis, cannot get radiation or chemo if they are pregnant. So I could list a thousand more scenerios, where abortion should be allowed. And women should have a choice anyway and it's no ones business except between a woman and her doctor.
"No-one will be required to carry a dead fetus you freak. It’s a leaked preliminary opinion, not final."
You know this for a fact Ken? With this scary untrustworthy court, it's most probably final. We women have to be ready and we will be.
That is also just Raygun's opinion. Old, just like Alito's. Quoting from the 17th century. What a dip.
And it's not killing babies if the mother's life is endangered. And some women who have a cancer diagnosis, cannot get radiation or chemo if they are pregnant. So I could list a thousand more scenerios, where abortion should be allowed. And women should have a choice anyway and it's no ones business except between a woman and her doctor.
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Killing babies is NOT healthcare! No-one will be required to carry a dead fetus you freak. It’s a leaked preliminary opinion, not final. Get a grip.
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Context explains what happens to your argument. https://www.axios.com/2022/05/04/aborti ... -women-map
The new laws that are already hitting the streets and which would be emboldened by Alito's opinion would not only cut access to women whose lives would be endangered by carrying to term, but women who are carrying dead fetuses, fetuses that are mangled and incomplete as well.
And of course we can talk about a husband or partner's role...did you not see that 'Casey' that Alito wants to also strike down is the ruling that no longer must a women get permission from her husband to have an abortion?
The way this opinion is written the doors are open to end birth control pills and devies. If you're trying to minimize the impact by saying only a low number seek abortions because of rape and incest, how many have to happen before that becomes important to you? How many women must be refused health care before it matters to you, give me your magic number?
The new laws that are already hitting the streets and which would be emboldened by Alito's opinion would not only cut access to women whose lives would be endangered by carrying to term, but women who are carrying dead fetuses, fetuses that are mangled and incomplete as well.
And of course we can talk about a husband or partner's role...did you not see that 'Casey' that Alito wants to also strike down is the ruling that no longer must a women get permission from her husband to have an abortion?
The way this opinion is written the doors are open to end birth control pills and devies. If you're trying to minimize the impact by saying only a low number seek abortions because of rape and incest, how many have to happen before that becomes important to you? How many women must be refused health care before it matters to you, give me your magic number?
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Obviously, the point is the vast majority of abortion has nothing to do with your arguments! And Ray, if men can’t speak out about killing children I think you may have really missed so much of what Jesus taught!
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Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest.
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