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You are a flat liar! I’m done with you.
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“You want the weak to die”, “you may be responsible for some deaths”

These are the quotes from your post that you accuse me of that brought that response from me. If you will make such slanderous and reprehensible accusations with absolutely no evidence to someone who has dedicated his career to saving lives and protecting the weak I do think you are a ‘jack wagon’ and you should shut up!
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Yep... reply was off topic... my bad... :-)
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pasayten wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 3:03 am Western Washington city loses all 12 volunteer firefighters in mass resignation

Gerald Tracy, KOMONews.com Digital Producer - Yesterday 10:11 AM

COSMOPOLIS, Wash. - A city's entire fire department is resigning.

The city of Cosmopolis in Grays Harbor County will be without its 12 volunteer firefighters starting Jan. 1, 2022.

The Cosmopolis Volunteer Fire Association (CVFA) announced the mass resignation on Facebook Thursday, calling it necessary.

According to a release, the department is upset at Cosmopolis Mayor Pauley, claiming he removed "necessary funding and leadership where it is most needed."

"Your firefighters in no way want to leave this community unprotected, we are citizens ourselves with families and homes that need emergency medical and fire protection if those unforeseen circumstances arise, however, we cannot protect you while keeping ourselves safe in the current state Mayor Pauley and his colleagues have created," the letter reads.

You can read the full announcement below.

KOMO News spoke with Mayor Kyle Pauley for a response to the developing story.


Pauley told us the timing of the resignation comes as a surprise.

However, he knew this was a possibility over the past couple of years.

“I had hoped that it wasn’t something it would come to but this is not something that is completely out of left field," Pauley said. "The timing is most interesting and that’s the hardest part.”

Pauley said he and the department have butted heads, but claims every decision he has made was for the good of the city and hopes they find a way to keep the city safe and keep the firefighters.

“Obviously it’s never a time for an announcement like this to happen that would be a good time," Pauley said. "This close to the holidays it kind of makes it a little tougher. It’s a sad situation that it’s come to this."

The mayor does have a plan, saying he has spoken with Aberdeen about its emergency services helping out should this actually happen.

“As soon as I saw the statement I started working to ensure the residents are going to be protected in the new year and so now we’re just going through that, it kind of came down last night so we’re still running through everything at the moment," Pauley said.
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Well, you understand that volunteer firefighters are exempt from the governors mandate and this story is nothing to do with COVID?
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So volunteer firefighters are not “ordinary loyal Americans”?
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Western Washington city loses all 12 volunteer firefighters in mass resignation

Gerald Tracy, KOMONews.com Digital Producer - Yesterday 10:11 AM

COSMOPOLIS, Wash. - A city's entire fire department is resigning.

The city of Cosmopolis in Grays Harbor County will be without its 12 volunteer firefighters starting Jan. 1, 2022.

The Cosmopolis Volunteer Fire Association (CVFA) announced the mass resignation on Facebook Thursday, calling it necessary.

According to a release, the department is upset at Cosmopolis Mayor Pauley, claiming he removed "necessary funding and leadership where it is most needed."

"Your firefighters in no way want to leave this community unprotected, we are citizens ourselves with families and homes that need emergency medical and fire protection if those unforeseen circumstances arise, however, we cannot protect you while keeping ourselves safe in the current state Mayor Pauley and his colleagues have created," the letter reads.

You can read the full announcement below.

KOMO News spoke with Mayor Kyle Pauley for a response to the developing story.


Pauley told us the timing of the resignation comes as a surprise.

However, he knew this was a possibility over the past couple of years.

“I had hoped that it wasn’t something it would come to but this is not something that is completely out of left field," Pauley said. "The timing is most interesting and that’s the hardest part.”

Pauley said he and the department have butted heads, but claims every decision he has made was for the good of the city and hopes they find a way to keep the city safe and keep the firefighters.

“Obviously it’s never a time for an announcement like this to happen that would be a good time," Pauley said. "This close to the holidays it kind of makes it a little tougher. It’s a sad situation that it’s come to this."

The mayor does have a plan, saying he has spoken with Aberdeen about its emergency services helping out should this actually happen.

“As soon as I saw the statement I started working to ensure the residents are going to be protected in the new year and so now we’re just going through that, it kind of came down last night so we’re still running through everything at the moment," Pauley said.
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Please enlighten me where I’ve been wrong about this issue, ‘big cheese’?! Your predictions have been wrong repeatedly.

I am certain that OTC medications cannot be accurately compared to a brand new ‘vaccine’ with barely a year of history. But maybe you’re a ‘big cheese’, I hear that’s a big thing but I really have no idea what that is medically!
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Thank you for clearing that up. So you do not have hard numbers.

It seems pretty obvious to me that if we think that 400+ deaths per year from a non-prescription pain reliever is okay than a vaccine that protects against a disease that has killed 800,000+ people in the last two years and has a far lower fatality rate would also be okay. But apparently you know something I do not.
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I do not have the video. My brother’s death is listed as unknown, possible PE those of us in emergency medicine know this is an unheard of set of circumstances. Sure are a lot of strange new medical problems in young people with no pre-existing issues, maybe it’s Tylenol?! When we have a few years of data we might be able to have some true comparative info. I really don’t think OTC medication that people can and do misuse has any comparative value to a highly controlled specialist administered new ‘vaccine’. You’re just pulling this out of thin air!
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dorankj wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:34 pm Wether or not they are a “plot to harm your children” if they do, they’re evil! They killed a healthy 45 yo FF on a Seattle sidewalk, 2 days post booster. His own crew had to work him.
I would be interested in seeing this link also...

Ken, also, the original youtube video starting this thread was removed by youtube for violating their community standards... Do you have a copy or another link for it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP8U4Ta78BA

This is why we in the health care field have problems with all the rules and mandates!
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dorankj wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:59 pmNope!
Okay, here are some hard numbers:
Acetaminophen overdose is the leading cause for calls to Poison Control Centers (>100,000/year) and accounts for more than 56,000 emergency room visits, 2,600 hospitalizations, and an estimated 458 deaths due to acute liver failure each year. Data from the U.S. Acute Liver Failure Study Group registry of more than 700 patients with acute liver failure across the United States implicates acetaminophen poisoning in nearly 50% of all acute liver failure in this country. Available in many single or combination products, acetaminophen produces more than 1 billion US dollars in annual sales for Tylenol products alone. It is heavily marketed for its safety compared to nonsteroidal analgesics. By enabling self-diagnosis and treatment of minor aches and pains, its benefits are said by the Food and Drug Administration to outweigh its risks. It still must be asked: Is this amount of injury and death really acceptable for an over-the-counter pain reliever?
(From https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15239078/ )

Show me the hard numbers from a credible source (e.g. from actual medical doctors and scientists in a peer-reviewed journal) on how many people mRNA vaccines (and there have been hundreds of millions of doses administered in the United States) have injured or killed. There has been enough time for a peer-reviewed study on the subject. Where are the hard numbers?

There was a collective freakout about 3 (THREE!) fatalities from the J&J vaccine. I suspect that if the mRNA vaccines were killing people in anything like the numbers that Tylenol kills people there would be a torrent of news about it. Whatever you can say about media bias (and I can say a heck of a lot myself) we all know that if it bleeds, it leads.

While you're at it, I've been looking for reports about the healthy 45 yo firefighter who died after the booster and haven't found any. Please send me a link.
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Nope!
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Fact is, the mRNA vaccines are safer than Tylenol.
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Wether or not they are a “plot to harm your children” if they do, they’re evil! They killed a healthy 45 yo FF on a Seattle sidewalk, 2 days post booster. His own crew had to work him.
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I hope you don't have to eat your words, but I think you would prefer to take them by injection! HAHAHA!!!
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No censorship here... Just use your due diligence when reading posts on this BB... :-)
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Dr. Tom Cowan is the spoiler with regard to the mainstream narrative that has been sold to the public. I understand that over $4B of taxpayer $ has been spent to do the aggressive marketing which appears to have not been successful. It must be that the product is not working as expected. Tom points out what he says is the smoking gun. I am just the messenger...

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-tom-c ... 4IBEy.html

https://rumble.com/vqkbne-dr.-david-mar ... bp&mrefc=2
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Yes, censorship! Where all the best science has flourished.
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dorankj wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:53 am https://youtube.com/watch?v=bP8U4Ta78BA&feature=share

This is why we in the health care field have problems with all the rules and mandates!
The video was removed from YT. Can you find it, and share again?
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Didn't watch any of them Brad... Oh... also went in and got my flu shot today... fully vaxxed for the winter... :-)
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dorankj wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:30 pm We really don’t know until we’ve had the time to do the science and discern the data. I believe natural immunity was found to be 27x more effective than vax immunity. I would prefer that option as I’m relatively young, healthy and have many co-workers do very well. Losing my job after providing my best effort when all was unknown seems particularly unfair especially when we’re only asking to uphold our Federal Civil Rights.
Dr Tom Cowan and Dr Sam Bailey have done the science, (and incidentally they both took pre-med courses) and Tom was an HIV/AIDS "dissenter" right out of med. school in 1984 when in April it was announced to the world that the "probable" cause of AIDS has been found... Are you in a cult?

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/pandemic ... unchj.html
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woodman wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:49 am The blue and green dotted lines on the graphs are showing that nationwide all cause mortality has increased by 14.8% in 2021 compared to 2020, and there is still 6 more weeks left in 2021.
That is not at all what the graph says.

The 14.8% is not 2021 compared to 2020, but 2021 compared to the baseline established from 2015 to 2019. There is an obvious typo in this line:
To date, for the year 2021, United States reported 2,807,786 deaths of all ages for the year 2020. Expected deaths thus far, were 2,445,719. That is an increase of 362,067 deaths (+14.8%).
The "2020" in the above should be "2021". This is obvious because if you look at the previous sentence it says:
United States reported 3,440,930 deaths of all ages for the year 2020. Expected deaths were 3,026,940. That is an increase of 413,990 deaths (+13.7%).
The reported deaths for 2020 cannot both be 3,440,930 and 2,807,786. That's just basic math. It is pretty obvious from context that it was a simple typo and the 2,807,786 refers to deaths in 2021. Also, don't blame me for these errors, you are the one who referred to this page.
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