dorankj wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:51 am
Well it’s a actual vaccine (and I’ve had it). Nobody who gets the polio vaccine ever gets polio! This therapeutic for COVID (it really only seems to lessen the chances of severe injury or death for the individual) doesn’t stop transmission or even getting COVID. It’s proving (with the need for a ‘booster’) to really be more like the annual flu shot, never eliminating the flu just lessening the chance of severe injury or death for the most vulnerable. Healthy people with strong immune systems, no obesity or major co-morbidity have a far better result (27x better) with a natural response.
there is no question that natural immunity works after Contracting covid. If only those seeking natural immunity could somehow not spread the disease to more vulnerable people while they're seeking that natural immunity. I guess that's why masks and testing are advised even among the vaccinated due to potential breakthrough case transmissibility of the virus.
There were breakthrough cases of polio and measles among the vaccinated.
"Jonas Salk's polio vaccine—hailed a medical miracle—was 80 percent to 90 percent effective at preventing paralysis caused by the polio virus."
"Measles and polio breakthrough infections aren't just rare because the vaccines are so effective but also because those who are vaccinated rarely interact with infected people. Even with highly effective vaccines for Covid-19, breakthrough infections are likely to keep happening because the virus is so widespread."
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science- ... 180978408/
From the CDC
"The risk for SARS-CoV-2 infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus. Early data suggest infections in fully vaccinated persons are more commonly observed with the Delta variant than with other SARS-CoV-2 variants. However, data show fully vaccinated persons are less likely than unvaccinated persons to acquire SARS-CoV-2, and infections with the Delta variant in fully vaccinated persons are associated with less severe clinical outcomes. Infections with the Delta variant in vaccinated persons potentially have reduced transmissibility than infections in unvaccinated persons, although additional studies are needed."
Hopefully Ken, with the new vaccine mandates enough people will get the vaccine and enough people will have developed natural immunity that you won't get the disease or have to get the vaccine.
You 'carry the water' for the community with your job and those of us who are willing, will 'carry the water' for the community by getting vaccinated.